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Ryas Nia
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Posted - 2007.05.13 07:45:00 -
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risk and loss are what make the game worth playing... yes they suck some times.
Remove the risk and you remove the game.
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Ryas Nia
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Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.05.13 07:57:00 -
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hehe always fun to get ganked in high sec..
Jim you got it man, its sad that the general population of eve went from trying adapting to changes, to whining till CCP fix it for them. So far 99% of all the grifing and exploit threads i see these days are from people who clearly are either to lazy or unwilling to change their play style.
For anyone who feels like they are not safe in empire, be it freighter or miner i have to concepts for you, Gang support and Logistics.
A freighter with 2-5 logistics ships will tank a swarm of BS's so long that concord will pop them unless they bring 30 to the fight... all of a sudden the cost ratio of the gank goes up...
The same is true of mining, bring along a logistics ship and a few BC's. Fact of the mater is most of these people refuse to realize that the game is played in groups (gangs and corps) and that corp specialization while good means your an easy target. Fly nothing but barges and you cant defend your self. If you need protection frigging pay for it.... sorry but its not cheap so maybe you should move somewhere where the reward justifies the risk unlike high sec empire where the reward is crap and there is just as much risk as low sec.
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Ryas Nia
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Posted - 2007.05.13 11:09:00 -
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CCP nerfs empire again :( sad... All this will do is continue the trend of using NPC corps for large alliances to safely move goods around empire.
CCP give us a chance to attack their logistics at least.
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Posted - 2007.05.13 11:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: Cipher7
Nobody should be able to haul billions of isk worth of stuff without risk.
The way it is now, nobody can run with more than 750 million in a freighter without risk.
Do the math. A freighter with as little as 750M million in stuff is the "breakeven point" for an economically viable target for a 15 Domi gank squad.
Heck.. take away insurance payments for concorded kills and that number will rise to as little as 2.8 billion for cost/benefit.
Now it seems crazy to me to spend a billion on a freighter but not be able to use it to carry at least a few times it worth safely in the safest space of this game.
I am not against killing freighters in high sec but it is clear to me the decision point for engaging is VERY skewed towards the pirate/privateer.
Taikun
You can use it even with all the ganking going on... just bring some friends in ships that can escort and assist. All the capital ships in the game are very very vulnerable when they lack any sport ships. Just ask a few of the solo dread or carrier pilots that lose ships in belts to 4-6 battleships...
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Ryas Nia
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Posted - 2007.05.13 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: Ryas Nia
You can use it even with all the ganking going on... just bring some friends in ships that can escort and assist. All the capital ships in the game are very very vulnerable when they lack any sport ships. Just ask a few of the solo dread or carrier pilots that lose ships in belts to 4-6 battleships...
Ducking skill at V? My point completely missed you.
How did using scouts work for you when Priavteers were in full effect? Get real. Friends to constantly monitor freighter movements in empire to protect a load worth 750m?
As Paris Hilton would say... WHAT-EVE-RRRR...
As it stands... freighters are basically useless in EvE. Need mins in 0.0? Use a carrier to cyno jump it down. Want to run stuff in empire? Better not be worth more than a billion or you are going to get popped in a freighter.
Freighters by DESIGN are for hauling ****loads of **** from A to B. The way the game mechanics are right now... putting more than a 750m worth of stuff in a ship with that capacity is terchnically a BAD thing to do. It would be safer to use a tweeked out battleship to haul compressed minerals and otehr stuff.
Just a matter of time for the Privateer CounterStrike fan bois to figure this new ISK making gankfest out and freighters will be popping like crazy soon. What am I saying... it has already started.
Do we count you as one of their number Ryas Nia?
Taikun
Scouts are only part of the solution, i don't know how it gets missed in this game but LOGISTICS LOGISTICS LOGISTICS, some of these things can rep 1k HP ever few seconds get just a few into gang and just watch.... they take a little time to train yes, and the skill is 30m fine, thats why you join a corp or an alliance that has sufficient members to defend and support your freighter.
Also you can make all the personal attacks you want but i have never been in privateers though i did like what they were doing and think CCP's nerf will hurt empire pvp, i have played CS once found it rather lame and did not like the community around it. Also i have never ganked anything in high sec and don't ever plan on it.
But then i do think it needs to be part of the game, otherwise people think they can just fly around without ever getting into a corp/alliance and be totally safe. Personally i don't think anyone should bealbe to fly anything larger than a BC in an NPC corp, this is an MMO people need to play it like that, if they want single player this is the wrong game.
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Ryas Nia
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: frihetskjemper
Maybe use a way to prevent multiple account from the same IP address?
We have 3 people playing on one IP in my house... so no thanks.
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